Stop Playing Small: Own Your Patterns, Own Your Power with President & CEO/Executive Coach and Management Consultant Tinna Jackson
What does it mean to be a resilient leader, not just at work, but in every area of your life?
In this powerful and deeply moving episode of The EmPOWERed Half Hour, Becca Powers sits down with Tinna Jackson, CEO of Jackson Consulting and author of The Power Play Journal, to explore how resilience, self-awareness, and purpose can transform pain into power.
Through personal tragedy including the back-to-back loss of her brothers during COVID—she discovered her true calling: to help leaders build emotional intelligence, lead with integrity, and reframe life’s toughest moments into stepping stones.
Whether you’re a corporate leader, a parent navigating change, or simply someone who knows there’s more out there for you, this episode is a masterclass in rising strong.
Resilient Leadership Redefined
Tina introduces the concept of the “resilient leader” and how it applies whether you’re managing a team, a household, or your own healing.
Harnessing Loss for Good
How Tina transformed unimaginable grief into a fearless drive to serve and empower others.
Reframing as a Superpower
How shifting your perspective—even when it feels impossible—can help you break down imaginary walls and reclaim your potential.
Limiting Beliefs vs. Possibility Thinking
Unpack the lies we unknowingly live by and how peeling back the layers can lead to radical clarity.
The Cheat Code of Self-Awareness
Why knowing yourself is the foundation for emotional regulation, meaningful relationships, and empowered leadership.
Key Moments You Won't Want to Miss:
- Tinna shares how her brother’s words from beyond inspired her to keep showing up, even in the midst of grief.
- Becca opens up about losing her own sibling and how she chose to carry his spirit forward through her work.
- A candid conversation on parenting, leadership, and how growth requires us to lead differently through each new season.
- Tinna’s reminder that “the wall is imaginary”—and how to move past your fears by asking better questions and seeking help.
- A mic-drop moment on the power of words and how childhood “tapes” influence your adult confidence and choices
Empowering Thoughts to Take With You:
- “You have to believe in the possibilities more than you believe in your limiting beliefs.” – Tinna Jackson
- “Self-awareness is very important… it really is the cheat code for loving yourself and loving others.” – Tinna Jackson
- “The wall is imaginary.” – Tinna Jackson
- “Once you know more about yourself, you can regulate your emotions and you can manage all of your relationships so much better.” – Tinna Jackson
- “You do have choices. You could choose to crash out and go off, or you could retreat and say something like, I need time to think about this.” – Tinna Jackson
- “I’m playing a tape from a third grade teacher who doesn’t even remember that I exist.” – Becca Powers
About Tinna
Tinna Jackson is a distinguished executive coach, leadership strategist, and thought leader on the Forbes Coaches Council. As the founder of Jackson Consulting Group and PowerDyn LLC, she specializes in power dynamics, emotional intelligence, and executive leadership development. She is the bestselling author of The Power Play Journal and the creator of the Pivot to Power program, a transformative coaching experience designed for high-achieving professionals. Recognized for her impact, Tinna was honored as Empowered Woman of the Year and Top Executive Coach and Management Consultant of the Decade 2025 by The International Association of Top Professionals (IAOTP). Through her work, she equips leaders with the influence, empowerment, and decisive action needed to thrive in high-stakes environments.
Connect with Tinna Jackson
Explore deeper leadership reflections with Tinna Jackson’s The Power Play Journal: Battle-Tested Strategies & Reflections for Impactful Leadership. Available now on Amazon and at the powerplayjournal.com.
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Becca Powers:
Welcome to another episode of The Empowered Half Hour, and I am bringing you today someone I'm so excited to interview. Like, genuinely just in the pre-talk I got really, like, I got the goosebumps. I'm like, yes, this is gonna be a good one. Alright, so let me bring it to you. I have today Tinna Jackson. She is the CEO of Jackson Consulting and she is the author of The Power Plate Journal, and her book is beautiful.
You'll see some images in the show notes, but Tinna, welcome to the show.
Tinna Jackson:
Awesome. Thank you so much, Becca. I'm so happy to be here with you today.
Becca Powers:
Let's get into it. So, you guys are gonna learn about Tinna as I do, but I just know from us getting to know each other a few minutes before we hit record that, you know, there’s some similarities and some parallels and some passion areas that are very similar.
So Tinna, I would love to ask you question number one. What’s your backstory? How did you get to a point of wanting to produce a book, start a consulting agency—and, you know, your book, not to mention, is a bestseller now and also received an award. You're passionate about all this. How did you get here?
Tinna Jackson:
Yeah, this is a—it’s an interesting story for sure, for sure. So I am actually born and raised in Washington, D.C., and I'm still here. This is where my business is. And, you know, I've had a really, really interesting upbringing. I grew up with four older brothers. I am the daughter of a Marine who met my mom in the Philippines when he was stationed.
And, you know, growing up in D.C. back in the '80s was really, really tough. It was a tough time with everything that was going on, with the drugs invading neighborhoods and so forth. And, you know, my escape at the time when I was a teenager was through art and reading and being very, very diligent about my work—about my schoolwork.
And then when I finished high school, I wasn't sure that I was gonna go to college. I got into—because I was so artsy—I got into cosmetology. So I went to cosmetology school.
From Loss to Leadership: The Resilient Journey of Tinna Jackson
Becca Powers:
Oh nice!
Tinna Jackson:
Yeah, so I went to cosmetology school. As I was doing that, I also maintained a day job, and I was working for a law firm that also did lobbying. And a gentleman there decided that he was going to take me away from the firm and take me to Capitol Hill because he was leaving the firm and he was gonna go work for this congressman once he won his Senate seat.
And I’m just listening. I’m like, “Ah, whatever, you know, politicians, whatever, they’re full of it.” But the guy ended up winning, and my friend came to me three times. He said, “Tinna, you’ve gotta meet this guy. I think you’d be great to work with him.”
And I asked him, “Why do you think I’d be so great? I’m just a secretary.” At the time, that’s what we called assistants—yeah, back in the day it was secretaries. I said, “Why are you bugging me? Like, why is this so important to you?”
He said, “Because you don’t cut any corners. You are serious about your work. I love your work ethic, and you tell the truth no matter how people feel. And you do it in a way that’s so subtle, and it makes people move. You get stuff done.”
Becca Powers:
Ooh.
Tinna Jackson:
I was like, “Oh… okay.” So I went with him to this reception. I meet this senator and I’m like, “Oh, he’s the real deal. Yeah, I’ll come work for you guys.”
And I did. I ended up working on the Hill for a little over 10 years. That’s—a decade is a long time when you're in a very fast-paced environment like that. You never know what’s coming on any given day.
And then after that I did some nonprofit work, and then I ended up with a political committee. And during that time, I noticed a lot of patterns throughout my career, at least the last 10 years. I noticed a lot of patterns. I noticed that people tend to be really, really good at their jobs. If you want to be good at your job, you will be good at your job.
A lot of the things that were missing was direct training. A lot that was missing was the lack of emotional intelligence and the way to connect with employees from a manager’s perspective—to get people to be inspired to continue working well. Right? Then, you know, the gap between just in general leadership and all of the employees.
And every job I got, I was like, “Yeah, this is a problem. I wonder what someone’s gonna do about this.”
And so when I was with this political committee in 2017, a lot of folks were going over to the White House, and I said to myself, “I know they're gonna call me. Someone’s gonna have a problem. Someone’s gonna have an issue.” And I was like, “You know what? I’m gonna start my management consulting business. I don’t know if anything’s gonna come of it, but we’ll make it work.”
And so I did. A couple years later, I decided to step into my business full time because I knew I had something. Even though I was saying emotional intelligence, emotional intelligence—people weren’t getting it.
But I think people are getting it now.
Becca Powers:
Yeah, right.
Tinna Jackson:
Especially post-COVID. And speaking of COVID, I had two brothers pass away in early 2020 from COVID, literally back to back. When the first brother was being buried, I got the call about the second brother. So the second brother died on the day of the funeral for the first.
And honestly, I saw the rest of that year through, but I was like, “You know, I’m gonna step into this business full time, and I’m gonna help as many people as possible, and I’m gonna impact as many people as possible.”
And so yeah, I went in full stop with Jackson Consulting Group. I ended up with a considerable amount of clients to keep me busy. And during that time, I kept thinking about this book. Like, I’ve gotta write this book, I’ve gotta write this book.
When I started writing it, it was over 400 pages, and the publisher was like, “Lady... we cut. This is not a textbook.” Because in my mind, I was like, “Oh, this is gonna be a textbook because people need to learn this stuff.”
And then I said, “No, what I’m gonna do is I’m gonna write it in a way where every manager—anyone who is in the process of thinking of managing other people, even if you're managing your household as a mom, or managing your relationships, or managing projects or just managing an organization as a CEO—I want people to check themselves.”
I want people to learn about resilient leadership. And then question, “Have I been a resilient leader? What have I overcome to get to this particular area or this particular place of strength so that I can bring others along and help them as well?”
So the book is written as a journal with various journaling prompts at the end of each chapter for self-reflection.
Becca Powers:
That’s very cool. And there’s so much in all of that opening that I might want to touch on, but I think I’m gonna take a piece from where you were just wrapping up and then I want to go back to a couple pieces.
The one thing that fascinated me at the end was you’re using this term “resilient leader.” I’ve interviewed probably over a hundred people, and I have never really heard—we talk about resiliency, and I’ve had a lot of podcasts on that—but I’ve never really heard anybody anchor into the resilient leader.
That just caught me. And so I just want to ask you, and I love that you mentioned whether you’re leading your house or you’re leading an organization, or like you’re leading. So what would you say are qualities that you see in a resilient leader? How would you describe a resilient leader?
Tinna Jackson:
Yeah, I think resilient people are honest. They’re honest and they have a high level of integrity. And they also have a level of self-awareness and recognition of what they are going through.
When you can accept what you’re going through, the likelihood of you pushing past it, I think, is very high—even if it’s accepting what you’re going through and recognizing that “I can’t do this by myself. Maybe I need a coach. Maybe I do need to go to therapy.” One therapy session won’t hurt. It actually helps.
Becca Powers:
It does.
Tinna Jackson:
It actually helps. So yeah, I think it’s people that operate with a high level of integrity and acceptance and self-awareness. They know themselves. They know what’s going on. They know how much they can handle, even though a lot of us handle so much—too much—on a level where you start to approach burnout.
Becca Powers:
Yes. And that’s kind of where I was going. With strong self-awareness, you can almost overcome anything.
You had mentioned losing both of your brothers back to back. I can’t even imagine. I only have one sibling, and he passed away last year.
Tinna Jackson:
I’m so sorry to hear that.
Becca Powers:
It sucks. But there’s a couple things in what you said. Like, when my brother passed away, I was in the middle of writing my book with the publisher.
Tinna Jackson:
Mm-hmm.
Becca Powers:
I had to make some choices pretty fast. And it’s like, do I need to break to try to emotionally process what happened? Or am I going to take what just happened and take him with me through this?
And so I chose the latter. I’m like, you know what? I feel his presence. I know he would want me to keep going on. And I went.
But I think, as we relate to what we’re talking about—even the loss—and we had talked about in the pre-interview of “life lifing,” right? I think that we are ten times more resilient than we give ourselves credit for.
Tinna Jackson:
Absolutely.
Becca Powers:
You can persevere from losing both your brothers. I can persevere from losing my brother. But I would like to talk about that—perseverance a little bit. Take what you’ve learned and summarize it in an empowering message for the audience. Help them remember who they really are, Tinna.
Tinna Jackson:
Yeah, absolutely. The thing is, loss is inevitable. Whether you're losing siblings or parents—even the loss of a job—we all go through some sort of grieving process when there’s a loss.
Reframing Loss and Leading with Resilience
Tinna Jackson:
Aware. Right. And knowing, just knowing how you're feeling and giving yourself grace to feel those things is okay.
You know, when I was still working with an employer at the time that my brothers passed, I was working on a political convention, and that's a very important large-scale event during the year of COVID. Right. It was tough. I could have stayed home. I could have said, COVID scares me.
I had two brothers who passed away from COVID. I'm just not gonna do it. Then I heard my two brothers, they're so tough. They were so tough, tough guys. I heard my brother say, girl, stop. You don't need to cry over us. Get your stuff done, do what you need to do. That's how they were. And I was like, you—
Becca Powers:
You know, that's just the energy I got from my brother too. Crazy enough. Yeah.
Tinna Jackson:
And so I became—there was a part of me that became fearless. I was like, screw COVID. I'm not gonna allow COVID to keep me from getting on a plane and working with the team and helping people and helping to see this event through. And I think during that process people were like, shocked.
I think people saw me like, oh my God, are you okay? Yeah, I'm awesome. Now, there were times where I would have to again, give myself grace to feel. I'd be thinking of my brothers and I would just, you know, like even on the plane. I don't know if this happens with you, but when I'm on the plane and I'm in those clouds, I'm like, oh, I'm thinking of my brothers.
I hope their soul is okay. You know, I hope they are where I believe they're supposed to be. And so I give myself grace to feel. We are allowed that as human beings. Not allowing that is what keeps you in a very, very sad and dark place. Not allowing that space for yourself.
Becca Powers:
And I love how you just also talked about like harnessing their spirit for good. I think so many times we take the loss of whether it's loved ones or, you said like a job—and like, I mean, I've been through layoffs, I've been divorced, I've lost loved ones. Loss has become like a thing.
But I have learned, when you talked about resilience, this is why I was like, hey, let's get into the meat and potatoes of this a little bit because the one universal thing we all have is we all go through this stuff, right? And like, why can one person come out the other side? Another person can't.
And I often find it's perception. How are we internalizing it and what are we doing for it? But if you can think about how can I leverage this for good? How can I take what my brothers’ attitudes and what they're saying to me—like, my brother was in sales, like a sales leader. And so I always heard him in my head, go get back on the phone.
Like that's his way of telling me, let’s go, girl. You can't sit here and be sad. You gotta get back on the phone. Let's go.
But I think that's a very empowering message for someone who still dreams of what they're doing next. Or thinks like, hey, I've gone through this. Who am I to rise into this next thing? What I would like you to maybe share with the listeners is the outcomes and the positive things that happen when you harness your resilience and then you do turn it into good. What are some of the things that you've seen happen in your life and in the life of your clients?
Tinna Jackson:
Yeah. You know, I think it's important to understand how to reframe a lot of the situations that we go through. I think it's important to reframe, especially when you're dealing with loss. Like, a lot of things don't happen to us. They happen for us. There's a lesson in there. There is. There's a lesson in everything.
And I think once you get to a level where you're able to accept and reframe, things get a little easier. I'm not gonna bullshit you and tell you that, oh, you just reframe and you just move on. No, it's a process. It's a learning process. It's learning how to think differently all over again and believing those things.
Like, I do believe that even though my brothers died during COVID, they didn't die from being shot. They didn't die from being robbed. They died during a pandemic. They were not the only folks that we lost as a country.
And so as you're reframing too, I try to teach that to my clients. Because when you're a new CEO, for instance, you're walking into an organization. In your mind, you think you know what you're doing—until things start getting revealed on an hourly basis, on a daily basis. You think you know what you're doing.
Yeah, sure. Your previous jobs have prepared you for this huge role you're taking on. But when you are dealing with human behavior, and when you're dealing with people that have difficulty trusting, and you're walking in as the new person and you want to make all of these changes, you're gonna lose that whole team.
And so I try to teach my clients: reframe. Don't walk in thinking that you are the new sheriff in town. Everyone's gonna fall to your feet, and you're just gonna get all this stuff done. Your agenda's gonna get pushed through immediately.
No. No, bro. No, sis. It's not gonna go that way. It does not. It does not.
Becca Powers:
But I like that you even brought it back to business because we have a lot of people who are highly professional that listen to this—and a lot of people, whether it's a mom or dad that run households. And I think that, you know, sometimes we get stuck in, you know what—I like the CEO example, but I'm also thinking—and the reason I was pausing—I was also thinking of like parenting and the different seasons of life that you go through.
Like, you can't parent your teenager the same way you parented them as a toddler.
Tinna Jackson:
That's right.
Becca Powers:
So this reframing and reconsidering and reevaluating is just a really important process. And I don't know if you have anything you want to say off that, but you just got me thinking of like, wow, this is applicable to—I'm going back to that theme of resilient leader—like this is really applicable across situations.
Tinna Jackson:
Yeah, you know, it sure is. Just as a parent now—I am not a parent—but I watched my mom try to raise five crazy kids. Four boys and one girl as the baby. And it was not easy. She worked a full-time job. My dad worked a full-time job coming out of the military, and there were five kids.
And you know, I was a lot younger. My oldest brother's 14 years older than me. And so being the youngest and the only girl, obviously she wasn't gonna parent me the same way because I was being brought up in a different time than they were.
And because my dad was in the Marines, they really didn't have him around. I was the only child that had both my mom and dad around.
And so we were brought up differently. And so when you think of those different scenarios, you can equate it to what you go through in organizations. Like, my mom was trying to parent me, you know, from toddler, like you said, toddler to teenager to young adult. There was growth in that process.
And if you don't recognize that, you're gonna be an angry parent. Right? There's gonna be a lack of understanding of why your daughter or your son is not sharing information with you. Because maybe you're still seeing them as that 7-year-old child and not the 16-year-old they've become.
Becca Powers:
No, I am tracking what you're saying, and I'm relating it back 'cause I've—you know, my highest level of leadership was senior director. And so now I'm like coming back to these roles.
And I think that when you also get stagnant in your career, I think that it's along those same lines as you've started to approach today the same way you did five years ago.
Anyway, I'm just saying how universal what you're talking about really is. Whether you're a CEO or you're a director or you've been in your role for a while and you are starting to hit that wall—what would you say to that person?
Tinna Jackson:
I would say that the wall is imaginary.
Becca Powers:
Hey, I like that.
Tinna Jackson:
The wall is there if you think it's there. It's your mind. It is in your mind. You have to believe in the possibilities more than you believe in your limiting beliefs.
Don't get me wrong. It's hard. We all struggle with imposter syndrome and confidence when we are scared, when we see the vision, we see where we want to be, or areas that we might want to step into.
But when you start thinking and doubting, and you keep looking for that doubt, you will find evidence of it. And it's all in your mind. No one's stopping you from doing anything that you want to do.
There's so many resources for us if we ask. And I'll tell you, the senator I worked for—I learned this from him—he would ask for anything under the sun.
He would always say, you never know what people would be willing to do or if they'd be willing to help unless you ask. If you keep it to yourself, if you keep thinking that you could do everything by yourself and put on your Superman cape and your Superwoman cape—that cape gets old.
After a while, once you're reentering the Earth's atmosphere into reality, that cape gets worn out.
And so yeah, I think it's important to just be honest with yourself and try to break down a lot of those limiting beliefs. Because who told you you couldn't do that?
Becca Powers:
Yeah, exactly. Who told that? I love that you said, who told you that? Because it normally is a who. You know, it normally is a who.
Could have been from when you're eight years old, and here you are 38 years old, and you're letting that wall—you know what I mean?
Tinna Jackson:
Oh my God.
Becca Powers:
Once you start peeling back the onion and you start digging deep, deep, deep on where that came from—
Tinna Jackson:
Oh, I know.
Becca Powers:
I have been like, that was a third grade teacher that I've never talked to ever again. Why is that—
Tinna Jackson:
That's right.
Becca Powers:
Keeping that wall up? It doesn't even make sense. So it is really cool.
It's fun. I know you guys might not think, listeners, that it's fun to peel back the onion, but it is. It's kind of a fascinating thing, so I encourage you to do it.
Alright, so I want to ask another question. You shared quite a few lessons so far, but I would love for you to share an aha that's up for you or like a lesson that is really up for you right now.
Tinna Jackson:
It's interesting. I just mentioned some of it, but it's this limiting beliefs issue that we all have, I think, that can be very, very damaging to our psyche, to our mental state.
Purpose, Self-Awareness, and the Power of Patterns
Tinna Jackson:
Sure. And to where we all could go, possibly. Especially when you are on that path to figuring out what your purpose is. You know, I truly believe that I'm working in my purpose. All of the jobs that I've had over the years—and I had to come to this realization—all the jobs I've had over the years, I've always worked for the top person. Whether it was CEO or Senator, I've always worked for that top person as an advisor. And so I'm saying to myself, like, I've always been a coach. What am I doing? Why wouldn't I branch out and do this as a business owner for myself and try to get to as many people as possible and let them know that you're not the only one? It was me too, and it's okay. There is a path forward. Let me help you.
Becca Powers:
I love that. And you said something so powerful. I don't think we—and I probably, like, encourage the listeners to get your book too, especially since it's a journal and it's going to have a lot of self-awareness in it. But just like stopping to see: what is my pattern? What am I good at? What has my career looked like? If I was to take that observer view, look down, like when Tina looked down on her career, she says, "I've always been the advisor to leaders, to the highest people." Why would I not do that for myself? Like, that's a brilliant question to ask yourself and to, like, you know, peel back that onion on.
Similarly for me too, I've realized—it took me stopping and asking those questions like: What is my theme? What is my pattern? Who do I enjoy? What am I good at? Who have I helped? Who have I served? But I tell you listeners, when you start asking yourself those questions, wonderful things start unfolding for you.
And you know, Tina, I'd like to turn it back to you and just say, like, how could what we're talking about be empowering for a listener if they were to embrace the messaging?
Tinna Jackson:
And I think what's empowering is the possibility, right? Once you start doing some inward reflection and even writing down—I don't care if you write it on a napkin or whatever—just write down a couple of notes. Like, what have I been doing? What have I been doing for the last year? Had I stopped doing one thing, what is one thing I could have stopped doing that could get me closer to where I'd want to be? Once you start looking at those patterns...
And look, I'm guilty. I go on TikTok. I could spend several hours on TikTok when I'm avoiding an issue. Oh my God, TikTok shop, right? I could spend hours. But if I flip it back on myself, what could I have been doing in those four hours that I've been scrolling and avoiding an issue? Right? I could have gotten through that issue and solved multiple problems in that timeframe.
And so, if you do some reflection and be honest—be honest, it's just you and yourself. It's just you, yourself, and your pen and your pad or whatever you're writing on. Just be honest with yourself. What have you been doing? What do you want to do? And think about a potential roadmap for how you could get there. Because it doesn't have to be me, but there are many people out here that are willing to help, that can be helpful.
Becca Powers:
And I love even tying that back to one of the lessons that you shared from—I think you said—the senator that you worked for. It's like, there are—and you said—there are multiple paths. And you don't know what is possible for you if you don't start mapping it out, if you don't start asking people for help, if you don't start leaning on the resources. We limit ourselves based upon what we think other people are thinking—what we think they're going to respond with, or how they're going to perceive us. That imposter syndrome of like, "Who am I?"
You talked about so many things. I mean, I feel like I could talk to you for like two hours. And I looked at the time, I'm like, sadly, we're coming to the end of this. So I do have one more question for you, but I want you to share with the listeners first: how can they stay in touch with you? How can they find your book? All of that now goes to you, Tina. How can you?
Tinna Jackson:
Sure. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. So I am on Instagram: @tinnajackson. It's Tina with two Ns—T-I-N-N-A—Jackson. Also on LinkedIn. The Power Play Journal—it's Battle-Tested Strategies and Reflections for Impactful Leadership—that is on Amazon, and it's also at thepowerplayjournal.com.
Becca Powers:
That is awesome. Yes, I'm going to go over to Amazon and purchase your book because I love this interview, and I want to support you, one. But I want to see—like, I love seeing how other people present information to help bring out the best, right?
Tinna Jackson:
Yes. Thank you.
Becca Powers:
I just feel like you did a good job at that. I don't know, but I feel like you did. I want to play.
Tinna Jackson:
Thanks.
Becca Powers:
Alright, so last question. It's really more of like a statement that I'd like from you. It's The EmPOWERed Half Hour—what is an empowering message you can leave for the audience?
Tinna Jackson:
Yeah. You know, I think that self-awareness is very important, right? You may not recognize it right now, but it really is the cheat code for loving yourself and loving others. Honestly, I think that once you become more self-aware, the floodgates open—and no one will understand it until they get to that place.
Once you know more about yourself, you can regulate your emotions and you can manage all of your relationships so much better. Because when you get upset, you do have choices. You could choose to crash out and go off, or you could retreat and say something like, "I need time to think about this. I'm not in a good place to respond right now." And that's okay. Yes, you can give yourself that grace. It's okay.
Like, I get upset a lot, but I just—I’ve got to think for a second. Especially if the person you're talking to and dealing with—if that relationship is important to you, you will find a different way to respond. If it's your parents—especially if it's your kids. Because I don't know that parents are fully aware of how powerful their words are, and how kids—as a kid, I just remember carrying a lot of tapes with me in my head from both parents that still stick to me this day.
I'm sure you have a few where parents have said certain things to you, and you remember them to this day, and it affects how you function. It affects how you function as an adult. It really does, which also contributes to some of your limiting beliefs.
Becca Powers:
Right. That's why I went back to the third-grade teacher when we were talking about earlier. I'm like, I'm playing a tape from a third-grade teacher who doesn't even remember that I exist.
Tinna Jackson:
That's right. That's right. That's right. Absolutely.
Becca Powers:
So great. That was beautiful and such an empowering message. I just want to thank you so much for coming on and being a guest. It was an absolute pleasure to interview you, and I hope we keep in touch. Thank you for being our guest.
Tinna Jackson:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you so much. I really enjoyed it.
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